TullyRunners Releases Boys State Team Preseason Report



Via Bill Meylan


Boys - Potential Top Overall Contenders & Class Contenders

Pre-season team rankings have problems: ... first, they are based (in large part) on last year's results ... more recent track results may or may not have relevance for the upcoming XC season ... some runners improve (some improve a lot) ... a few runners transfer or quit ... new runners can join a team and make a big difference ... So any pre-season rankings must be viewed in that context.


What good are pre-season rankings?
 (1) a fun topic of conversation during the summer
 (2) beneficial in gathering background information for the upcoming season


Once the XC season starts, I rank individual runners and teams based strictly on performance during the current season ... So pre-season rankings are not used during the season.


To a large extent, the team listing below is just an extension of the 2015 XC season into 2016 with a few modifications ... IF data for 5 runners on each team was not readily available (or guess-able), that team is probably NOT included below.


I limited the Combined Class list to 36 teams after starting with 70+ teams.


Remember ... this list is just an informational starting point ... I posted scores by individual class because some people are interested ... A lot can change between mid-July and November.


 

 New York BOYS Teams - Combined Classes 2016


[ Combined Teams ] .. [ Class A ] .. [ Class B ] .. [ Class C ] .. [ Class D ] .. [ CHSAA - AIS - PSAL ]


                  Pre-Season Projection - New York Boys Team Contenders - 2016

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              Scores Using Top 36 Teams
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         Team                   Score     Class
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    1    Fayetteville-Manlius    245      (03-A )
    2    Ithaca                  255      (04-A )
    3    Corning                 275      (04-A )
    4    Saratoga                285      (02-A )
    5    Warwick Valley          300      (09-A )
    6    Xavier                  320      (CHSAA)
    7    Burnt Hills             350      (02-B )
    8    Shenendehowa            390      (02-A )
    9    Liverpool               395      (03-A )
    10   Mount Academy           415      (09-C )
    11   Watkins Glen            425      (04-C )
    12   Somers                  450      (01-B )
    13   East Aurora             455      (06-B )
    14   Pittsford Mendon        460      (05-B )
    15   St. Anthony's           470      (CHSAA)
    16   Guilderland             475      (02-A )
    17   Brockport               490      (05-B )
    18   Baldwinsville           495      (03-A )
    19   Orchard Park            495      (06-A )
    20   Queensbury              495      (02-A )
    21   McQuaid                 500      (05-A )
    22   Chaminade               500      (CHSAA)
    23   Fairport                510      (05-A )
    24   Pearl River             525      (01-B )
    25   Northport               540      (11-A )
    26   Niskayuna               555      (02-A )
    27   Kingston                560      (09-A )
    28   Penfield                560      (05-A )
    29   Cicero-North Syracuse   575      (03-A )
    30   Sachem North            580      (11-A )
    31   Fox Lane                580      (01-A )
    32   West Genesee            580      (03-A )
    33   Maine-Endwell           590      (04-B )
    34   Smithtown               610      (11-A )
    35   Arlington               620      (01-A )
    36   Trinity School          640      (AIS  )


Where did the scores come from? ... In part, the scores are a composite of computer race simulations using 2015 seasonal speed ratings ... a few speed rating ranges were altered based on track results ... I manually manipulated some numbers because I wanted to ... and then adjusted final scores for various reasons.


In General ... Similar to other pre-seasons, I see a lot of uncertainty in the team scores posted above ... Pre-season projections are often made with limited knowledge (or no knowledge) of incoming impact runners such as transfers (from other sports or other schools) or significantly improved runners from the previous year ... It requires guessing.


Fayetteville-Manlius and Ithaca seem fairly close at the top ... Based on success in recent years, I tend to give teams like Fayetteville-Manlius or Liverpool a benefit-of-the-doubt in pre-season projections ... The raw numbers put Ithaca slightly ahead in some scenarios.


There are no odds-on favorites for the NY Boys Teams entering the 2016 season ... Actually, there is not much is separating a bunch of teams above ... One or two new impact runners could make a big difference ... In horseracing terms, this looks like a great betting race ... Lots of legitimate options in a wide open field ... Should be interesting to watch the development throughout the XC season.


Additional comments and information are given below by class ... Class consideration is important in the pre-season because it impacts far more runners than projections intended for Federation Championships or the NXN-NY regional qualifier ... Profiles for the Top Individual NY Boys are available.